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Setting Levels - Mixer and Powered Speakers

• Thread starter jerryfan6
• Commencement date Nov 28, 2012

• #1

In recent weeks, we have moved to a mixer and powered speaker setup...very happy with the results then far.

A simple question for those with a like setup, what level practice you prepare your speakers at? Plain it is easier to adjust volume from the board, especially during a gig, and so I'm wondering if I should set the speaker volume at Noon or should I crank them? Curious what everyone else does.

• #two

get a db meter, and ready your loudest mix volume at 85 db.

give or take.

then, do lower book mix sessions to check for translation at depression volume.

mark the amp once you've figured out where the sweet spot is between your mixer and your levels.

• #3

Run your console at same levels on every gig, use speaker amps to set volume based on size & needs of room. Learn proceeds structure.

• #4

Disagree with both previous posts. Not fifty-fifty sure what batsbrew is getting at with 85 dB.

Most powered speakers will have an optional setting, commonly marked at 0 dB. Gear up them there to get-go and adjust from the board. Running your console at the same level all the time makes no sense to me. Running out and adjusting the levels at the speaker seems way less than ideal.

• #v

Disagree with both previous posts. Non even sure what batsbrew is getting at with 85 dB.

Most powered speakers will accept an optional setting, usually marked at 0 dB. Set them there to kickoff and suit from the lath. Running your console at the same level all the fourth dimension makes no sense to me. Running out and adjusting the levels at the speaker seems manner less than platonic.

Thank yous.

• #6

my powered speakers don't have attenuators in them...they run broad open all the time.

• #7

Gear up the speakers and so that the console and the speakers hit 0db at the same time.

• #viii

Set the speakers and then that the console and the speakers hit 0db at the same time.

That doesn't brand sense either.

• #9

By Yamaha MSP7 nearfields have a dial on the back to add or cut from the nominal
0 dB setting.

This does not mean that some manufacture standard recordings won't clip the hell out of your monitors because the bespeak is so hot, you have to compensate for the type
of material you're working with.

• #10

There ought to be a sticky on this subject field-I've answered it a few times. Your question sounds to me like you lot are asking about a live sound state of affairs, not recording.

There are two schools of idea.

One, the traditional mode for recording, is to optimize proceeds construction based on pro sound level, that is 0 VU = +4 dBm = 1.23 volts. Thought is to get maximum bespeak to noise ratio (gain high enough) and lowest baloney (gain not besides loftier).

Set gain by playing the loudest passages, set fader to zip, bring upward input gain trim until it meters a good level, almost 0 VU or about -6 dB total calibration on a digital acme meter. This works well for recording to get proficient levels to record, your digital recorder, DAW, whatever. When I would record live with an Alesis HD-24XR via the direct outs, I could meet every channel meter on the recorder and get peaks to hit -6dB (i fleck below max of 24 bits at 0 dB full scale). Pretty straight line of meter segments lit up (using peak hold).

If you practise this method on a alive console and take a lot of channels at these levels, y'all may accept to back down channel faders and master faders so you don't clip your stereo mix bus.

Other method is to set speaker level trims at unity/zero. Then set up channel faders and master stereo motorbus faders to 0 and bring up input gain to the loudness level you want in your PA (rokpunk'due south speakers don't have level controls-the amps may or may non, the active crossover/processor does).

The latter method leaves good headroom on each channel and allows you to run faders at or almost 0 and not have huge gain build up at the mix jitney if you have a lot channels, thus needing to pull the master faders downward as well much.

Either way, it is a scrap of back and forth how you fix gain on the console and level driving your speakers. It's good to run your input gains high enough-if they are too depression, the mic preamp sounds wimpy and noisy. If too hot it will clip (misconstrue). Information technology's expert to have a nice level at the mix bus-running around 0 VU at the loudest points. You lot don't desire input gain trims too high and run faders too low-faders more often than not desire to exist run near their optimum point, near 0. Mix can sometimes dictate some faders might exist at -10 or even lower. If y'all're consistently running faders lower than that, turn down the input gain and push the fader upwards a bit.

Once you take good level coming out of your panel, plow up the speakers so they are at the loudness level yous want in the venue. If you find y'all can barely open upward the level on the speaker, your console is running too hot-bring it all down so you can open upwardly the input level on the speaker closer to it's "0" point. If your console is running at optimum level, and you can't get loud enough with your speakers cranked wide open up, you don't have enough power, speakers etc. I hate when that happens. Been in a few big venues with small PA's. Tin't get it loud enough. Tin't push the console any hotter or it distorts. Demand bigger/more speakers/power.

Last edited: Nov 28, 2012

• #11

I unremarkably set the speakers betwixt 1:00 and 3:00 depending on how much power i demand, and control the book from the mixer. Perhaps this way'south as well simple of an approach.

• #12

I ordinarily set the speakers betwixt one:00 and 3:00 depending on how much ability i need, and control the volume from the mixer. Maybe this way'south too simple of an approach.

It certainly doesn't accept into account any concepts of proper proceeds staging I detailed in my mail #ten.

You take a random gamble of existence in the ballpark. If you fix channel gains on your mixers properly, everything sounds improve and down line, gain staging works better.

Endeavor information technology, yous may similar information technology.

• #13

^^^ thanks and very helpful. I thought the OP's question was more operational in nature and I assumed setting proper proceeds settings on the mixer. Didn't mean to go far sound so random. Skillful info. Thank again.

• #xiv

Can everyone recommend a link for "gain setting" on a mixer? If it matters, we use an Allen&Heath Mixwizard sixteen:2.

• #15

I should have mentioned, I was really talking near Powered Monitors through the Aux Sends.

We use a Ability Amp and Passive Mains (though I judge the question could likewise pertain to how to set the levels betwixt the board and the power amp).

• #16

Here's a really skilful little article from Rane about setting gain structure. They refer to power amps. Only it applies to powered speakers as well. Y'all just don't have the benefit of doing it quietly similar you would with a ability amp / passive speaker setup.

http://www.rane.com/note135.html

• #17

This video may help with the basics:

• #xviii

I run amps wide open whether inside or outside the speakers.

• #19

I run amps wide open whether inside or outside the speakers.

Every bit long equally you don't kill your speakers that'south okay but less than optimal as nearly mixers can drive an amp to it's full potential without the amp's input attenuator broad open... You lot aren't keeping your noise flooring as low as yous can this fashion.

Knowing that you aren't clipping your amps until your mixer mains clip is priceless when you really have to push a organization.

• #20

Disagree with both previous posts. Not even sure what batsbrew is getting at with 85 dB.

Almost powered speakers will have an optional setting, ordinarily marked at 0 dB. Prepare them at that place to offset and accommodate from the board. Running your panel at the aforementioned level all the time makes no sense to me. Running out and adjusting the levels at the speaker seems way less than ideal.

information technology'southward dirt simple, gcdef...

i mix at 85 db in my studio, to check final mixes.

that is an accepted db level for mixing.

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